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there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all, i will eliminate all programs by this test. if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it's worth boring money from china to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize mr. president. jim, i'm sorry, i had stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird, like you too. but i won't keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for. i'll take programs that are currently good programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to state. and make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine age
there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from...
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obama dell right it was not historic but the beginning of the potential comeback for mitt romney. neil: senator rubio said look at the missteps from this spring are other comments ill-timed or others but he lost momentum and they lost enthusiasm. he got it back to night. >> i agree. in the morning he has to declare victory to say that i want. barack obama did not damage himself he did not come in as said gladiator he seemed to want to have discourse he did not do brand damage but to say mitt romney came out a couple notches ahead. if he could do that the trend is significant the president will have to up his game to be more in a fighting spirit. he seemed like he wanted to get it over with. that is the prerogative but it was a good night for the republicans. neil: neither one was wearing a watch. [laughter] historic they those with knicks then/kennedy and reagan and/carter. today confirmed the trend or reverse was a trend? >> now there will be fact checking. we will see how that pans out. did mitt romney get a bounce? and donor money gets reenergize but not a sound bite to live on
obama dell right it was not historic but the beginning of the potential comeback for mitt romney. neil: senator rubio said look at the missteps from this spring are other comments ill-timed or others but he lost momentum and they lost enthusiasm. he got it back to night. >> i agree. in the morning he has to declare victory to say that i want. barack obama did not damage himself he did not come in as said gladiator he seemed to want to have discourse he did not do brand damage but to say...
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i think you're right, certainly i think that plitt romney will be very claesed with the night. you look at the twitter verse, some democrats think the president seemed a little listless here. certainly when you think about it, mitt romney needed to come in here and make an impression. we'll see in the days ahead whether he did. but certainly i can assure you in the spin room right now, republicans are making the case that he did, in fact, make that impression. anderson. >> no doubt about that. reaction already pouring in. and we'll be taking the temperature of a lot of different groups over the next hour and a half. we have our analyst and reporters and cnn contributors. a quick reading right now. john king, david gergen. >> look at e-mails, conversations during the debate. twitterverse, republicans very happy, including the top team around mitt romney. liberals complaining about the president's performance. without a doubt, participating in republican primary debates helped mitt romney, the president was rusty. hasn't done this in four years. that's not an excuse as james said
i think you're right, certainly i think that plitt romney will be very claesed with the night. you look at the twitter verse, some democrats think the president seemed a little listless here. certainly when you think about it, mitt romney needed to come in here and make an impression. we'll see in the days ahead whether he did. but certainly i can assure you in the spin room right now, republicans are making the case that he did, in fact, make that impression. anderson. >> no doubt about...
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there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start, the economy, segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes, each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined mr. president, you go first. >> well, thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality. there are a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. you know, four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financia
there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start, the economy, segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes, each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined mr. president, you go first. >> well, thank you very much, jim,...
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on education, on the right way to fix the deficit. romney's approach is the wrong approach. taxes, on deficit, on wall street reform and medicare on mk. and we think that voters are taking this election very seriously. taking the middle class of the country and i do think the president made very clear that we're rebouning from a recession. we're making progress. but there's no progress to be made and if we go back to trickle down economics which is all romney's offering, that the middle class will be harmed and it's going to marme our economy. >> one last question for you and it is a little bit on the style of this and i realize that you're a policy guy as much as you are a candidate guy but i do have to ask you to be candid on the. was there a deliberate strategy on your part to tell the president to not attack mitt romney? he never talked directly to mitt romney and told him that he was being wrong about things. the one time he got closest to that when he said -- your strategy right now is to say "never mind" about your previous tack plan. that's as close as they got to ta
on education, on the right way to fix the deficit. romney's approach is the wrong approach. taxes, on deficit, on wall street reform and medicare on mk. and we think that voters are taking this election very seriously. taking the middle class of the country and i do think the president made very clear that we're rebouning from a recession. we're making progress. but there's no progress to be made and if we go back to trickle down economics which is all romney's offering, that the middle class...
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it felt to me like mitt romney showed up thinking that his goal was to be the alpha male. >> right. >> and that he needed to assert his dominance over everyone there, and certainly jim lehrer bore the brunt, the president as well. i got the sense that for him it was a dominance thing. it was very aggressive, and i agree with joy, i think a lot of women, particularly women who were already inclined to vote for the president, which as we know many women are, are going to be further turned off by that tone. >> do you think that he was like that because of the goading that he's had from republicans who feel that he's a bit e feet, that he's not really tough enough, that he hasn't gone out and beaten everybody up? >> i think it's part of that. if you go back and look at the primary debates, mitt romney was largely the same way. he's a vicious debater. he gets in there and his goal is to shred everyone who is on that stage. i think the only change from the primaries is that he took on the newt gingrich role of including the moderator in the beating he was trying to give. >> newt's advice. >
it felt to me like mitt romney showed up thinking that his goal was to be the alpha male. >> right. >> and that he needed to assert his dominance over everyone there, and certainly jim lehrer bore the brunt, the president as well. i got the sense that for him it was a dominance thing. it was very aggressive, and i agree with joy, i think a lot of women, particularly women who were already inclined to vote for the president, which as we know many women are, are going to be further...
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so rich people pay less under romney and more under obama. that is the ultimate answer, right? >> the ultimate answer is if either one get their proposals through. and one of the way our economy grows is if rich people have more money, they hire more people. you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get to the issue that rich people need the money because they create the jobs. i want to bring in ed and al and steve and chris back into this discussion. i want to bring back chris matthews in denver in terms of hearing the republican spin on this. seeing what seems to be real democratic frustration on this. we're hearing already in terms of the different responses. the romney side is proclaiming victory. the obama campaign does not seem to be doing that. chris? >> when you read "the new york times" tomorrow, you'll see a side bar, strong night for romney. i think it's an objective -- it may be theater, but this is
so rich people pay less under romney and more under obama. that is the ultimate answer, right? >> the ultimate answer is if either one get their proposals through. and one of the way our economy grows is if rich people have more money, they hire more people. you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get...
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governor romney than it is for president obama. we know president obama. we either like him, don't like him or are in between. lot more people have to get to know govern orromnor romney so more important debate. i think he has to be presidential. i think he has to convey the kind of person that people would be comfortable with as president. i tend to think we kind of score this as if it's a boxing match or basketball game. >> you know what it's like to debate mitt romney. i don't want to rehash any old wounds but i do want to play just some of the thing you guys got into and ask what he's like as a debater. >> governor romney, was new york a sanctuary city? >> absolutely. called itself a sanctuary city. in fact, in the welfare reform act president clinton brought forward said they were going to end the sanctuary policy of new york city, the mayor actually brought a suit to maintain its sanctuary city status. >> it's unfortunate, but mitt generally criticizes people in a situation in which he's had far the worst record. for example,
governor romney than it is for president obama. we know president obama. we either like him, don't like him or are in between. lot more people have to get to know govern orromnor romney so more important debate. i think he has to be presidential. i think he has to convey the kind of person that people would be comfortable with as president. i tend to think we kind of score this as if it's a boxing match or basketball game. >> you know what it's like to debate mitt romney. i don't want to...
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what i think is interesting, this movement right here where romney is shifting from side to side, to me it looks like he's a boxer. again, it gets at this idea that romney sees this kind of as a boxing match, and he's kind of like preparing to go on by shifting his weight from side to side, he's kind of getting himself ready. you don't see obama doing anything like that. >> you have a closing two minutes. >> does that tell you anything when he wipes his lip? >> might have noticed throughout that he is sweating sort of on his upper lip, and he's aware of that and he wants to mop that away before his closing argument. so he wants to make sure that he looks really strong, and it's funny, i think when you do something like that, even on camera, you think people don't notice it as much as they do. >> now we're looking at the good-bye. what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it
what i think is interesting, this movement right here where romney is shifting from side to side, to me it looks like he's a boxer. again, it gets at this idea that romney sees this kind of as a boxing match, and he's kind of like preparing to go on by shifting his weight from side to side, he's kind of getting himself ready. you don't see obama doing anything like that. >> you have a closing two minutes. >> does that tell you anything when he wipes his lip? >> might have...
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their basic message was, yes, mitt romney did very well. yes, his tone was right. yes, his style was right. but he lied the whole way through the debate. i problem i think for the obama campaign is that they didn't spend a lot of time going through what the substantive problems were with the arguments that mitt romney was making. if you want to accuse somebody of lying in the context of a presidential campaign, you have to lay it out pretty clearly. >> greta: byron. >> they have not been able to come up with an explanation for why the president didn't use the ammunition he had, if he wanted to. he never mentioned the 47% or bain capital. never mentioned any war on women. all of the things that the democratic faithful wanted to hear, he didn't say eye have a theoro that, as a lawyer, you don't want -- you don't want him to look dirty and get in the gutter and start to push those buttons. he has all of those ads out there, everybody's going to be hearing that, he has the super pacs, why get his hans dirty? >> they could say that. but i asked david plouffe that. i ask
their basic message was, yes, mitt romney did very well. yes, his tone was right. yes, his style was right. but he lied the whole way through the debate. i problem i think for the obama campaign is that they didn't spend a lot of time going through what the substantive problems were with the arguments that mitt romney was making. if you want to accuse somebody of lying in the context of a presidential campaign, you have to lay it out pretty clearly. >> greta: byron. >> they have not...
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and mitt romney getting in a game of jinga right before the debate. here he is with ann in their hotel room waiting for his turn to play. he was joined by three of his sons and one of his grandchildren. a good day for jinga. i find it frustrating. more on that when we return. >> you're entitled as president to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts. >> steve: zing. mitt romney comes out swinging last night and he did stick to the facts, a tactic rarely seen among politicians. his secret weapon, just stating it like it is. peter johnson, jr. joins us live right now. >> it was substance. it was specifics. it was hard facts and in doing it, mitt romney crushed the president last night. i think everybody is agreeing on that. we had our research department here at fox, what's known as the brain room, they looked only at the statistics. i think if we looked at concepts, if we look at other stuff, we'd see it higher. when they went head to head, we see mitt romney delivered the stunning blow in terms of statistic after statistic afte
and mitt romney getting in a game of jinga right before the debate. here he is with ann in their hotel room waiting for his turn to play. he was joined by three of his sons and one of his grandchildren. a good day for jinga. i find it frustrating. more on that when we return. >> you're entitled as president to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts. >> steve: zing. mitt romney comes out swinging last night and he did stick to the facts, a tactic rarely seen...
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stuart: all right, i'm making the judgment that romney won. it's not just me, however, the perception that romney won this debate is widespread. even among the liberal media. headline from "the washington post" "rejuvenated romney hammers obama on his economic record" the los angeles times "a lackluster obama, a revived romney". unabashed obama supporter chris mathews was even disappointed with his guy. >> where was obama tonight? i don't know what he was doing out there. he had his head down, he was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. james carville, also noticed a new attacking style from romney. quote, mitt romney came in with a chain saw. and this tweet from bill maher. >> i can't believe i'm saying this, but obama looks like he needs-- he does need a teleprompter. well, coming up at ten o'clock. the top of the hour, eastern that would be, we will talk to brent about the media coverage of this debate. here is a question for you. by ten o'clock eastern, will the establishment media have rallied around the president, will they have
stuart: all right, i'm making the judgment that romney won. it's not just me, however, the perception that romney won this debate is widespread. even among the liberal media. headline from "the washington post" "rejuvenated romney hammers obama on his economic record" the los angeles times "a lackluster obama, a revived romney". unabashed obama supporter chris mathews was even disappointed with his guy. >> where was obama tonight? i don't know what he was...
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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something just completely wrong. >> is governor romney trying to reset his campaign? our political panel will be back to discuss that. and do you think today's jobs report will erase what many call president obama's lackluster performance at the debates? join our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. do you churn your own butter too? what? this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier sure does who are you? [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. ♪ ambiance [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. your head-start to home cooked. >>> last night in an interview fr governor romney backtracked for the first time in the controversial remarks regarding the 47%. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and quest
that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something just completely wrong. >> is governor romney trying to reset his campaign? our political panel will be back to discuss that. and do you think today's jobs report will erase what many call president obama's lackluster performance at the debates? join our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. do you churn your own butter too? what? this is going to...
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romney in the polls right now is getting back up to 46, 47% which is where he was going to be anyway. >> that was before last night. >> ben, ben, please, come on man, you got plenty of time. so i think where romney excelled was in his personal performance, what he didn't excel on is selling his policies and the arguments about how he's going to make the country better. he's going to have to do a better job at that in the future debates. i think you'll see obama in the debate and in television ads dissepl -bl the lies and mistakes that romney made last night in his presentation, which is going to take him down a little bit on the policy side. i think, look, democrats aren't panicking. we didn't have a good night. we will still win this election. obama has to raise this game and fight much harder if he wants to death this thing done. megyn: in al gore's defense i did feel a little funny when i was in denver too. i want to show you a couple of polls before i let you go from cnn. 67% say romney won, 25% obama. 75 of independents believe that romney won, just 17 say obama won. and when ask
romney in the polls right now is getting back up to 46, 47% which is where he was going to be anyway. >> that was before last night. >> ben, ben, please, come on man, you got plenty of time. so i think where romney excelled was in his personal performance, what he didn't excel on is selling his policies and the arguments about how he's going to make the country better. he's going to have to do a better job at that in the future debates. i think you'll see obama in the debate and in...
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the second thing to say is it wasn't so much the right, and there were people on the romney side trying to push it. it was the left. it was the left that went crazy on obama! they wanted a grudge match, a cage match. they wanted -- >> that's why even the obama campaign thinks they lost. >> yeah, that's the problem. >> when they come out tend with the spinners, it was all romney people. >> who knew that preparation with joy bearrest would have been a bad idea? spending all that time on the couch. obama had such a rough night that sandra fluke called him to see if he was doing okay. i thought that was pretty touching. i actually felt -- it's the worst possible feeling that you could have is to feel sorry for somebody and i felt like i was watching the washington generals playing the harlem globetrotters. that's a basketball reference. i wanted to make sure you knew that. but i bet at this point, romney's garbage man is voting for him. obama to me, he remained me of homer simpson rolling down the mountain and continually, no matter what he does, keeps hitting his head over and over and ove
the second thing to say is it wasn't so much the right, and there were people on the romney side trying to push it. it was the left. it was the left that went crazy on obama! they wanted a grudge match, a cage match. they wanted -- >> that's why even the obama campaign thinks they lost. >> yeah, that's the problem. >> when they come out tend with the spinners, it was all romney people. >> who knew that preparation with joy bearrest would have been a bad idea? spending...
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what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set this up first for mike barnicle. we've all been saying the same thing. phone calls coming in last night from my democratic friends, independent friends, republicans, everybody's been asking the same thing, where did this come from? we've never seen this mitt romney before, but you say you have. >> yes, this is how mitt romney became governor of massachusetts in 2002 during a series of debates. he was exactly this way as he was last night. he came in prepared. he had a plan. he executed it. he was armed with specific information. he went right at the opponent. then it was shannon o'brien running for governor against
what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set...
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mitt romney is not a progressive, you're right. who cares. >> i'd repeal dodd frank. we're not going to get rid of all regulation. you have to have regulation. >> cenk: unfortunately, it worked. we'll tell you the results and we'll tell you how it worked on the show. then did president obama take it easy on romney because fox news has been charging him with being an angry black man because of this old clip. >> what is happening down in new orleans? where is your dollar? where is your money? it tells me that some how people in new orleans, they don't care about it as much. >> cenk: that is a really interesting debate. we'll have that on the show. and then toby zeigler from the "west wing"." >> it's not rocket science, it's labeled, but it takes a voter extra ten seconds to find it. >> cenk: how he would have done last night. all that and the elbow of the day. well somebody elbowed themselves. you might have been able to guess it. that's all on "the young turks." guess what time is it? you know it. you guessed that too. it's go time. >> romney: i will not under any circ
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last night's opening statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most ro n romantic place you could imagine here with me. congratulations. >> that was, i hate to say it, charming. >> yeah. >> james. >> yeah. >> where did that come from? >> it came from mitt romney. he's rather notorious for telling nox that go over lie lead balloons. this did not. he finally found his groove as far as a comedian is concerned. at least for that moment. >> let's talk about the president. he was the one i think that was the base of most consternation. you know, he was looking down a lot. did he know and what did you think about the fact of that split screen? there we are watching it now. we never didn
last night's opening statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most ro n...